I think facing V2s bet, my call, V2's call of his x/r, and my back-raise, it would be really hard for V1/UTG to continue with any over-pairs. What sort of hands do you think would be better? In game, I didn't think T7 was too bad, since it blocked top set and top 2, and I could pick up equity on any 6, 7, 9, T, or J turn. I feel like x/r'ing the flop makes it too easy for V2 to play perfectly against me, whereas check-calling flop with most or all of my range allows me to get more value for my strong hands, and occasionally get to a cheap showdown and / or steal a pot with some weaker hands. If BTN checks back turn, I can donk-lead river. I'd rather let V2 keep the betting lead, and go for a check-raise on a turn brick or card that improves my hand. If I raise flop, I won't really know what to do on a lot of turns with my unimproved 1P, or my 2P and sets. I generally don't see very many x/r's from PFR's in multi-way pots, and I wouldn't expect the UTG PFR to check-over-call very often in a spot like this, so my strong but vulnerable hands don't benefit as much from raising for protection. I think the BTN is going to be stabbing a lot with worse pairs and bluffs I want to keep in. In this set-up, I generally wouldn't raise flop when V2 bets. but T9/T7 seem particularly bad hands to play this way when you are called. I think the line itself is much better if you really don't have a raising range when V2 bets flop, but I'd assume that's bad as it lets V2 stab at it way too much when checked to.Īs for the hand selection itself, as the old saying goes "It doesn't matter what you bluff with when everyone folds". Considering UTG's range is mostly overpairs, I don't think blocking TT and T8s is as important as having equity or being sure they fold overpairs. Also, you could have J9s, 97s, 76s which are all 8 out straight draws that have a lot more equity vs the continue range. If you are only 50% sure they fold overpairs, I doubt your play is profitable. ![]() I think you basically need to be sure UTG folds overpairs for your play to be profitable. Meaning it needs to get through both villains. ![]() But I felt like I had a fairly easy call on the flop.Īlso in my hand, the button bet/folded before the back raises, when they bet/call, they tend to be more capped, but depending on the player can still be nutted.īefore factoring in equity and fold equity on future streets (which is why we still cannot judge you play without the stacks of both villains) your bluff needs to work 56% of the time to profit. To be fair, I didn't snap off my opponent's pot size turn jam, I tank called. It's possible he did, but wasn't sure whether or not to believe him. He did claim he folded an over-pair, for whatever that's worth. If I can clarify - I did think that V1/UTG has two overs when he check-raised, but I also thought that even if he had an over-pair, it would be hard for him to call my raise, because I could have all the 2P and sets on the board. Sometimes I'll make a play supported by two seemingly contradictory thoughts. Good on you for snapping your opponent off.
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